{"id":1714,"date":"2015-05-06T14:18:23","date_gmt":"2015-05-06T12:18:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/?p=1714"},"modified":"2015-05-09T20:58:22","modified_gmt":"2015-05-09T18:58:22","slug":"5dsr-gegen-5diii-d810-und-5d","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/2015\/05\/5dsr-gegen-5diii-d810-und-5d\/","title":{"rendered":"5DSR gegen 5DIII D810 und 5D"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Da hab ich echt \u00fcbersehen, dass Lightroom CC die 5DS-Raws \u00f6ffnen kann \ud83d\ude42 Also mal auf die Schnelle Bilder von Imaging Resource runtergeladen und verglichen. Ich erspar mir Schlussfolgerungen, das k\u00f6nnt Ihr im Kommentar oder in den Foren ausklam\u00fcsern. Am Ende des Beitrags ist noch der Link zum Bilder-Set (jpg nativ und auf ~13Mpix normiert). Alle Bilder sind ohne Reglerver\u00e4nderungen direkt aus Lightroom in nativer Gr\u00f6\u00dfe jpg exportiert und in Photoshop zusammengestellt. jpg-Kompression betrug 90%.<\/p>\n<h3>ISO 100<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso0100_Sharpness.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1720\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso0100_Sharpness.jpg\" alt=\"5DSR_iso0100_Sharpness\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso0100_Sharpness.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso0100_Sharpness-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso0100_Sharpness-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso0100_SNR.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1719\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso0100_SNR.jpg\" alt=\"5dsr iso100\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso0100_SNR.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso0100_SNR-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso0100_SNR-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>ISO1600<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso1600_Sharpness.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1718\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso1600_Sharpness.jpg\" alt=\"5DSR_iso1600_Sharpness\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso1600_Sharpness.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso1600_Sharpness-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso1600_Sharpness-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso1600_SNR.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1717\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso1600_SNR.jpg\" alt=\"5DSR_iso1600_SNR\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso1600_SNR.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso1600_SNR-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso1600_SNR-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>ISO 6400<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso6400_Sharpness.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1716\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso6400_Sharpness.jpg\" alt=\"5DSR_iso6400_Sharpness\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso6400_Sharpness.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso6400_Sharpness-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso6400_Sharpness-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso6400_SNR.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1715\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso6400_SNR.jpg\" alt=\"5DSR_iso6400_SNR\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso6400_SNR.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso6400_SNR-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DSR_iso6400_SNR-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>5DS, 5DIII, D810 &#8211; Runterskaliert auf 5D-Gr\u00f6\u00dfe (4368px breit)<\/h3>\n<p>Scaling in Lightroom Export.<\/p>\n<h3>ISO 100<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso0100_Sharpness.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1728\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso0100_Sharpness.jpg\" alt=\"5DS_normalized_iso0100_Sharpness\" width=\"600\" height=\"664\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso0100_Sharpness.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso0100_Sharpness-271x300.jpg 271w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso0100_SNR.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1727\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso0100_SNR.jpg\" alt=\"5DS_normalized_iso0100_SNR\" width=\"600\" height=\"664\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso0100_SNR.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso0100_SNR-271x300.jpg 271w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>ISO 1600<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso1600_Sharpness.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1726\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso1600_Sharpness.jpg\" alt=\"5DS_normalized_iso1600_Sharpness\" width=\"600\" height=\"664\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso1600_Sharpness.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso1600_Sharpness-271x300.jpg 271w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso1600_SNR.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1725\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso1600_SNR.jpg\" alt=\"5DS_normalized_iso1600_SNR\" width=\"600\" height=\"664\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso1600_SNR.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/5DS_normalized_iso1600_SNR-271x300.jpg 271w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Wem es noch nicht aufgefallen ist.. Die Skalierung in Lightroom ist deutlich homogener w\u00e4hrend die bikubische Verkleinerung in Photoshop sichtbar mehr Sch\u00e4rfe reinbringt (oder rausholt).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Scaling_Photoshop_Lightroom.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1731\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Scaling_Photoshop_Lightroom.jpg\" alt=\"Scaling_Photoshop_Lightroom\" width=\"600\" height=\"332\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Scaling_Photoshop_Lightroom.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Scaling_Photoshop_Lightroom-300x166.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Zu guter Letzt die <a href=\"http:\/\/dl.phreekz.de\/DSLR\/5ds_test.zip\">umgewandelten Bilder als zip-Set<\/a>. Man mags nicht glauben, schn\u00f6de 17 jpg-Bilder k\u00f6nnen nun auch ~210MB einnehmen. Hui. Ach ja, <a href=\"http:\/\/dl.phreekz.de\/DSLR\/5DS_add3EV.jpg\">Hier ein Beispiel (ISO3200 3LW hochgezogen) f\u00fcr die &#8222;sch\u00f6neren Daten in den Tiefen<\/a> &#8211; da hat Canon wirklich nen Zahn zugelegt, die Noisepattern und der Chromateppich sind nahezu weg.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/colorchart_greyvalues.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/colorchart_greyvalues.jpg\" alt=\"colorchart_greyvalues\" width=\"422\" height=\"280\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1740\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/colorchart_greyvalues.jpg 422w, https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/colorchart_greyvalues-300x199.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 422px) 100vw, 422px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Nachtrag: die \u00fcbliche Betrachtung \u00fcber die <strong>Glockenkurve im Photoshop-Tonwertdiagramm<\/strong> (Werte stellen die Breite in Helligkeitswerten\/8Bit dar) Werde wohl mal nach dB oder LW umrechnen m\u00fcssen, damit das was Aussagekr\u00e4ftiges wird. &#8222;low&#8220; ist auf der Colorchart der 2. Grauwert von rechts, &#8222;18%&#8220; 3. v Rechts, &#8222;light&#8220; der 2. von Links.<\/p>\n<p>Native Ausgabe (native) und (norm) normiert auf 13Mpix (Aufl\u00f6sung der 5d)<\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>kind<\/td>\n<td> \tISO<\/td>\n<td>  \tValue<\/td>\n<td>\t5D<\/td>\n<td>5DIII<\/td>\n<td><strong>5DSR<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>D810<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>native\t<\/td>\n<td>100<\/td>\n<td>low<\/td>\n<td>2.04<\/td>\n<td>\t2.17<\/td>\n<td>\t<strong>3.27<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>\t2.41<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>18%\t<\/td>\n<td>2.40<\/td>\n<td>2.02<\/td>\n<td><strong>3.24<\/strong>\t<\/td>\n<td>2.35<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>light<\/td>\n<td>1.00<\/td>\n<td>\t0.97\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>1.19<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>\t0.96<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>1600<\/td>\n<td>\tlow\t<\/td>\n<td>7.53<\/td>\n<td>\t6.43<\/td>\n<td>\t<strong>9.97<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>\t7.79<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>18%\t\t<\/td>\n<td>8.45\t<\/td>\n<td>7.02\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>11.04\t<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>8.65<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>light\t<\/td>\n<td>3.38\t<\/td>\n<td>2.92\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>3.66\t<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>3.12<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>6400\t<\/td>\n<td>low\t<\/td>\n<td>&#8212;\t<\/td>\n<td>13.21\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>19.98<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>\t15.44<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>\t18%\t<\/td>\n<td>&#8212;\t<\/td>\n<td>14.23\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>22.13\t<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>17.87<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>\tlight\t<\/td>\n<td>&#8212;\t<\/td>\n<td>5.83\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>6.74\t<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>5.83<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>norm\t<\/td>\n<td>100\t<\/td>\n<td>low<\/td>\n<td>2.04<\/td>\n<td>1.74\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>2.12\t<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>1.81<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>18%\t<\/td>\n<td>2.40\t<\/td>\n<td>1.61\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>2.05\t<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>1.62<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>light\t<\/td>\n<td>1.00\t<\/td>\n<td>0.87\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>0.76\t<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>0.67<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>1600\t<\/td>\n<td>low\t<\/td>\n<td>7.53<\/td>\n<td>4.80<\/td>\n<td><strong>5.27\t<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>4.98<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>18%\t<\/td>\n<td>8.45\t<\/td>\n<td>5.37\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>5.72\t<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>5.62<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td> <\/td>\n<td>light\t<\/td>\n<td>3.38\t<\/td>\n<td>2.15\t<\/td>\n<td><strong>1.85\t<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>1.83<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Da hab ich echt \u00fcbersehen, dass Lightroom CC die 5DS-Raws \u00f6ffnen kann \ud83d\ude42 Also mal auf die Schnelle Bilder von Imaging Resource runtergeladen und verglichen. Ich erspar mir Schlussfolgerungen, das k\u00f6nnt Ihr im Kommentar oder in den Foren ausklam\u00fcsern. Am Ende des Beitrags ist noch der Link zum Bilder-Set (jpg nativ und auf ~13Mpix normiert).&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/2015\/05\/5dsr-gegen-5diii-d810-und-5d\/\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">5DSR gegen 5DIII D810 und 5D<\/span> weiterlesen<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1729,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[137],"tags":[248,265,356,357,355,14,358,321,229,352,354,353,351,267],"class_list":["post-1714","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-foto-ebb","tag-5d","tag-5diii","tag-5ds","tag-5dsr","tag-aufloesung","tag-canon","tag-d810","tag-lightroom","tag-nikon","tag-ratio","tag-schaerfe","tag-sharpness","tag-signalnoise","tag-snr","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1714","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1714"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1714\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1751,"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1714\/revisions\/1751"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1729"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1714"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1714"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.phreekz.de\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1714"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}